Sustainable Dish Podcast

In today's episode of the Sustainable Dish Podcast, I'm joined by Dr. Adegbola Adesogan, a Professor of Ruminant Nutrition at the University of Florida, to talk about his research and the many roles that livestock play in a nutritious, ethical, and sustainable food system.


Dr. Adesogan's work in developing communities focuses on improving livestock production and educating the public of the importance of animal products in a nutritious diet.


His work shows that improving the nutrition of one person helps mend the fabric of society and that is greatly influenced by the inclusion and productivity of livestock.


When we improve livestock, folks can afford more meat, milk, and eggs in their diet.


With more meat, milk, and eggs in their diet, they improve the nutrition of their children.


When the diets of children are improved, the children's growth, development, and disease-resistance improves.


When these children are healthy, they perform better in school, which can have huge implications on their future, their families, and extended families.


It's quite amazing and we dive into it all.

Direct download: Episode_118_Dr_Adegbola_Adesogan.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 3:54pm EDT

My guest on this episode is Dr. Sylvia Karpagam, who is an Indian Public Health doctor, writer, researcher, and advocate of the right to health and the right to food, particularly in the marginalized communities in India. In this episode, we talk about:

  • Causes of malnutrition in India, including the political and cultural denial of nutritious animal foods to members of their communities.
  • How 80% of India actually eats animal foods and it’s a dangerous myth that it is a vegetarian country.
  • How the EAT-Lancet group and Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation are propagating (and profiting from) this myth at the expense of the country.
  • Role of dominant social classes and how they influence cultural foods, traditional eating, and food policies.
  • The protein restrictions in school children's diets and how it affects them as they grow.
  • How most of India's beef is raised by small pastoralists on small parcels of land.
  • How eating beef has resulted in lynching and murder and likely skewed nutrition survey results.
  • And her current research and how we can support better science.

We reference her Right to Food Campaign, and discuss these articles:

Despite Nutrition Benefits, Most BJP States Keep Eggs out of Mid-Day Meals
Akshaya Patra imposing vegetarian food mono culture on children
Taboos around serving eggs in mid-day meals need to go
India is Not a 'Vegetarian Country' Like the EAT-Lancet Report Would Have Us Believe
The Meaning of India's 'Beef Lynchings'

Sylvia can be found at:

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Thanks, and enjoy the show!

Direct download: Episode_117_Dr._Sylvia_Kapagam.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 3:17pm EDT

​"No cow, no grass, no birds," says Marshall Johnson, Vice President of the National Audubon Society and Executive Director of Audubon Dakota and Audubon Conservation Ranching.


In this episode, we discuss Marshall's calling to birds and the prairies, the great influence of our indigenous populations on our past, present, and future grasslands, how birds are a strong indicator of the health of an ecosystem, and how we, as conservationists, along with well-managed cattle can call on our nation's history to restore our soils.

Direct download: Episode_116_Marshall_Johnson_Audubon_Society.mp3
Category:general -- posted at: 2:34pm EDT